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LL stops up a communication channel?
Second Life Insider
Oct 30th 2007 10:29PM When you consider that some people are running 50 to 100 "bots" then there probably is NO real growth!
Trouble is no one knows.
Virtual Ageplay Still Too Real
Second Life Insider
Oct 30th 2007 10:11PM I have to wonder if this is like the other such incidents in which some incautious passer by is tricked into posing for a "sexual" picture which then gets circulated all over?
Karen was tricked into one such situation the day before this whole fuss started and in the same location.
Fortunately I was able to recognize what was happening ant TP out of there before any pictures were taken for the German news or *I* would be the evil "pedophile".
Age/Identity verification and adult content flagging issues and information roundup
Second Life Insider
May 25th 2007 12:24AM Here is a typical harassment incident. As usual an abuse report was filed and nothing happened.
[20:50] Padraic Sands: you should run
[20:50] Padraic Sands: you shouldnt be here
[20:51] Padraic Sands: standing on the cement near the sand
[20:51] Karen Palen: Oh waht is your problem?
[20:51] Padraic Sands: bridge behind you
[20:51] Padraic Sands: if you are here
[20:52] Padraic Sands: why are you running away?
[20:52] Karen Palen: I am exploring - how about you?
[20:52] Padraic Sands: exploring?
[20:53] Karen Palen: yes - as in looking at places I haven't seen before
[20:53] Padraic Sands: yes and you just happen to be a little girl now and not one of your other av's
[20:53] Padraic Sands: place should be shut down
[20:54] Karen Palen: No this is my regular av - and I am not a "little girl" - take a look at my profile!
[20:54] Padraic Sands: i did
[20:54] Karen Palen: why should a school be shut down? Are you one of the prudes thta hates everything they don't understand?
[20:55] Padraic Sands: no i deal with sex offenders in rl and they are in here and the feds want them out
[20:55] Karen Palen: So you are just a bigot that hates everythign that is a little different?
[20:55] Padraic Sands: and you are feeding into it
[20:55] Karen Palen: Being small is a "sex offender"?
[20:55] Karen Palen: waht a strange view of the world
[20:55] Padraic Sands: yes no intent for you to look like a child
[20:55] Padraic Sands: thats your defense
[20:56] Padraic Sands: please
[20:56] Karen Palen: It is a fact - sorry. If you read my profile then you know about my RL experience with this discrimination.
[20:56] Karen Palen: This form of discrimination is ALSO against the law BTW!
[20:57] Padraic Sands: yes but do you help it by being at an elementary school?
[20:57] Karen Palen: You just enforce the laws taht are convenient then?
[20:57] Padraic Sands: hardly
[20:57] Karen Palen: Because I was curious
[20:57] Karen Palen: THat too is now a crime?
[20:57] Padraic Sands: no if indeed that was why you were here
[20:57] Padraic Sands: then i apologize
[20:57] Karen Palen: Selective enforcement is a favorite excuse of bullies like you
[20:58] Padraic Sands: bullies
[20:58] Karen Palen: bullies
[20:58] Padraic Sands: how about social workers and juvenile justice
[20:58] Karen Palen: yes and so?
[20:58] Padraic Sands: I've been picking up thje pieces of shattered lives a long time
[20:59] Karen Palen: Yes I am very familiar with the problem. I too have dealt with it in RL. I also know that bullying everyone is no solution
[20:59] Padraic Sands is typing...
[20:59] Padraic Sands: they are supposae to be
[20:59] Padraic Sands: not everyone in sl is 18
[20:59] Karen Palen: just round up th e"usual suspects" and everythign will be fine ...
[20:59] Padraic Sands: wow
[21:00] Padraic Sands: no clue
[21:00] Karen Palen: That is a different problem - I doubt is a RL teenager would play a child LOL
[21:00] Karen Palen: the usual excuse for incompetent police work
[21:02] Karen Palen: Sigh time for yet another abuse report on intolerance
The campaign for equal heights
Second Life Insider
May 25th 2007 12:20AM A typical harrassment incident in a "PG" area:
[20:50] Padraic Sands: you should run
[20:50] Padraic Sands: you shouldnt be here
[20:51] Padraic Sands: standing on the cement near the sand
[20:51] Karen Palen: Oh waht is your problem?
[20:51] Padraic Sands: bridge behind you
[20:51] Padraic Sands: if you are here
[20:52] Padraic Sands: why are you running away?
[20:52] Karen Palen: I am exploring - how about you?
[20:52] Padraic Sands: exploring?
[20:53] Karen Palen: yes - as in looking at places I haven't seen before
[20:53] Padraic Sands: yes and you just happen to be a little girl now and not one of your other av's
[20:53] Padraic Sands: place should be shut down
[20:54] Karen Palen: No this is my regular av - and I am not a "little girl" - take a look at my profile!
[20:54] Padraic Sands: i did
[20:54] Karen Palen: why should a school be shut down? Are you one of the prudes thta hates everything they don't understand?
[20:55] Padraic Sands: no i deal with sex offenders in rl and they are in here and the feds want them out
[20:55] Karen Palen: So you are just a bigot that hates everythign that is a little different?
[20:55] Padraic Sands: and you are feeding into it
[20:55] Karen Palen: Being small is a "sex offender"?
[20:55] Karen Palen: waht a strange view of the world
[20:55] Padraic Sands: yes no intent for you to look like a child
[20:55] Padraic Sands: thats your defense
[20:56] Padraic Sands: please
[20:56] Karen Palen: It is a fact - sorry. If you read my profile then you know about my RL experience with this discrimination.
[20:56] Karen Palen: This form of discrimination is ALSO against the law BTW!
[20:57] Padraic Sands: yes but do you help it by being at an elementary school?
[20:57] Karen Palen: You just enforce the laws taht are convenient then?
[20:57] Padraic Sands: hardly
[20:57] Karen Palen: Because I was curious
[20:57] Karen Palen: THat too is now a crime?
[20:57] Padraic Sands: no if indeed that was why you were here
[20:57] Padraic Sands: then i apologize
[20:57] Karen Palen: Selective enforcement is a favorite excuse of bullies like you
[20:58] Padraic Sands: bullies
[20:58] Karen Palen: bullies
[20:58] Padraic Sands: how about social workers and juvenile justice
[20:58] Karen Palen: yes and so?
[20:58] Padraic Sands: I've been picking up thje pieces of shattered lives a long time
[20:59] Karen Palen: Yes I am very familiar with the problem. I too have dealt with it in RL. I also know that bullying everyone is no solution
[20:59] Padraic Sands is typing...
[20:59] Padraic Sands: they are supposae to be
[20:59] Padraic Sands: not everyone in sl is 18
[20:59] Karen Palen: just round up th e"usual suspects" and everythign will be fine ...
[20:59] Padraic Sands: wow
[21:00] Padraic Sands: no clue
[21:00] Karen Palen: That is a different problem - I doubt is a RL teenager would play a child LOL
[21:00] Karen Palen: the usual excuse for incompetent police work
[21:02] Karen Palen: Sigh time for yet another abuse report on intolerance
The campaign for equal heights
Second Life Insider
May 24th 2007 10:07AM The point is that the LL types like Philip Rosedale talk a good line about freedom of expression, but when it comes to “unpleasant” ideas like small avatars he folds.
The word for that is hypocrisy!
For example, exactly WHAT *IS* the “simulated age” of an avatar?
When this whole fuss started I discussed this with a 50 year old woman who is 4ft tall in real life.
She claimed that the real discrimination was not age but height! If you are 4ft tall you *MUST* be a child - no debate allowed!
I have had the privilege of knowing this woman for over 20 years now and have had the opportunity to witness this discrimination first hand.
At her suggestion (insistence?) I adopted her “persona” as my Second life Persona - Karen Palen.
I can now personally bear witness to the pain she faces every day!
Dumb things like having her 25 year old daughter told to “make your child behave”! Embarrassing in front of your 8 year old granddaughter!
Serious things like not being believed when she reports an attempted rape.
The fact is that “freedom of thought” means nothing unless the most extreme and upsetting thoughts are protected!
The standard of "appears to be a child" is totally unworkable as the US legal cases clearly demonstrate. The "short person" persona is simply another example of the absurdity of such a standard!
It is conceivable that the European courts will somehow come up with an answer to this objection, but somehow I doubt it - there are just too many problems with this "standard".
All we are left with is "*I* didn't like it and *I* am the one who decides ..."
Just Askin': Do you approve of the planned age-verification?
Second Life Insider
May 6th 2007 11:08AM I travel a lot, so lets see do I use my Queensland Driver's license, Thai Driver's license, Singapore or Panama Immigration card or maybe something REALLY exotic!
ROTFL!
As an earlier poster pointed out though, this is not about actual age verification, it is all about PR and CYA! A "look nice" "wasn't my fault" band aid!
